Why can't I understand this?




I posted this in answer to a question and it was in violation?

Here are the problems with illegal aliens, we have the problem of our government not enforcing the laws against illegal aliens.

Americans Working to Stop Illegal Immigration
Get the Facts about Illegal Immigration
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Problems With Illegal Immigration

While illegal alien and amnesty supporters state complaints from Americans about illegal immigration are some form of racism, there are many very real problems associated with illegal immigration.

We asked a focus groups of citizen activists who are engaged in the struggle to have America’s borders secured and existing immigration laws enforced to tell us the different reasons Americans are alarmed about illegal immigration.

Please review this list. More details will be added to each subject in the future. Please contact us if you have an addition for this list of problems caused by illegal immigration.

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Anchor Babies: Birthright Citizenship Exploited
Anti-American Attitudes
Anti-Semitic Attitudes
Attacks on Border Patrol and Law Enforcement agents
Attacks on Free Speech in America
Animal Abuse Increases
Census Numbers: Negative Impact on Congressional Representation
Civil rights: Devalued by comparison to illegal actions
Child Endangerment
Child Molestation
Closed and Overcrowded Hospitals and Emergency Rooms
Cost of Translators
Consulates issuing Matricular Cards (ID Mexico won’t even accept)
Day Laborers loitering and creating public hazards
Depreciated Wages for Americans and Legal Immigrants
Deterioration of Common American Culture
Desecration of the American Flag: Foreign Flags used aggressively
Disrespect for American Laws
Document Fraud
Drunk driving injuries and deaths: Hit and Runs
Ethnic Cleansing and Race Riots
Farm animals with in city limits
Food Poisoning
Foreign Influence on US Politics
Gangs, Graffiti, Drugs, Cartels, Smugglers, and Violence
Gang Rape and unreported rapes
High Birth Rates and Overpopulation
Human Sex Slavery
Identity Theft
Increased Crime
Increased Taxes for Americans
Increased pressures on infrastructure (roads, traffic, water, sewer)
Infectious Diseases
Lost American Jobs
Lost American Sovereignty
Lost Self Governance of American citizens Vs. Globalism and Elitism
Male Chauvinism: Gender inequality
Not Speaking English, loss of common language, Press 1 for English
Overcrowded Schools and Negative Impact on American Education
Overcrowded single family homes
Overcrowded Jails and Prisons
Public Sanitation Loss: Trash and human waste in towns
Racist Groups and Race Based Politics
Remittances: Billions of dollars sent out of the US Economy
Rule of Law: Fundamental principles of America sacrificed.
Separatist Movements: Demands for autonomy
Smear Campaigns and Lies: Dirty Politics
Stolen American Taxpayer Resources: Tuition, Welfare, Licenses
Taking limited seats in colleges at taxpayer expense
Tax payer funds going to special interest groups (example) "LaRaza"
Terrorism Threats and Loss of national security
Trash and Negative Impact on Environment at border
Unfair to Legal Immigrants
Unfair Business Competition for law abiding companies
Unlicensed and Uninsured Motorists
Untaxed Wages
Voter Fraud

www.endillegalimmigration.com

And I quote Y/A answers;

In Yahoo! Answers you may not demean or insult others, or post tirades directed towards persons or groups.

Since when is pointing out the FACTS and TELLING the TRUTH in violation of ANYTHING. It is obvious that there are people here who do not want you to KNOW the truth and will do anything to stop you from seeing it.

Do you think Y/A answers is as big a JOKE as I do?




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What Do You Think About This Mock Bill ?




So in my AP Gov. class today we all made up bills and tomorrow we are going to debate over them. I am supposed to either debate for or aginst the following "bill" which suggests that

"The United States Customs and Border Patrol be given the federal jurisdiction and require that all local and state law enforcement agencies collaborate with the CBP when appropriate. In addition, increase border patrols at suspected high immigrant and drug traffic areas, and use un-manned surveillance systems in remote areas and 20 miles north of the border line. Also allow illegal immigrants that have been in the U.S. for five or more years, and have immediate family members that are U.S. citizens, to apply for citizenship by paying back taxes and assessed fines"

I really feel like I should debate against this bill for the simple fact that I have lived in Latin American countries before, and I honestly think that this bill won’t really help as the immigration problem really falls on the latin american mindset of coming to America for a better life.

I was wondering if anyone could point out some other "hard" reasons to debate this bill. Thanks!
Thanks for the insight.

I re-read my post, and I don’t want anyone to think that they are doing my homework for me or anything. I signed up voluntarily to debate this bill because I have seen illegal immigration first hand. I asked for advice, however, due to the fact that this bill was written by a classmate and I don’t even know how it relates to current laws. Thanks again!




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So in my AP Gov. class today we all made up bills and tomorrow we are going to debate over them. I am supposed to either debate for or aginst the following "bill" which suggests that

"The United States Customs and Border Patrol be given the federal jurisdiction and require that all local and state law enforcement agencies collaborate with the CBP when appropriate. In addition, increase border patrols at suspected high immigrant and drug traffic areas, and use un-manned surveillance systems in remote areas and 20 miles north of the border line. Also allow illegal immigrants that have been in the U.S. for five or more years, and have immediate family members that are U.S. citizens, to apply for citizenship by paying back taxes and assessed fines"

I really feel like I should debate against this bill for the simple fact that I have lived in Latin American countries before, and I honestly think that this bill won’t really help as the immigration problem really falls on the latin american mindset of coming to America for a better life.

I was wondering if anyone could point out some other "hard" reasons to debate this bill. Thanks!
Thanks for the insight.

I re-read my post, and I don’t want anyone to think that they are doing my homework for me or anything. I signed up voluntarily to debate this bill because I have seen illegal immigration first hand. I asked for advice, however, due to the fact that this bill was written by a classmate and I don’t even know how it relates to current laws. Thanks again!




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Can I Have Your Opinion On This Mock Bill ?




So in my AP Gov. class today we all made up bills and tomorrow we are going to debate over them. I am supposed to either debate for or aginst the following "bill" which suggests that

"The United States Customs and Border Patrol be given the federal jurisdiction and require that all local and state law enforcement agencies collaborate with the CBP when appropriate. In addition, increase border patrols at suspected high immigrant and drug traffic areas, and use un-manned surveillance systems in remote areas and 20 miles north of the border line. Also allow illegal immigrants that have been in the U.S. for five or more years, and have immediate family members that are U.S. citizens, to apply for citizenship by paying back taxes and assessed fines"

I really feel like I should debate against this bill for the simple fact that I have lived in Latin American countries before, and I honestly think that this bill won’t really help as the immigration problem really falls on the latin american mindset of coming to America for a better life.

I was wondering if anyone could point out some other "hard" reasons to debate this bill. Thanks!
Thanks for the insight.

I re-read my post, and I don’t want anyone to think that they are doing my homework for me or anything. I signed up voluntarily to debate this bill because I have seen illegal immigration first hand. I asked for advice, however, due to the fact that this bill was written by a classmate and I don’t even know how it relates to current laws. Thanks again!




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Is the number of troops being sent the only thing they can pick at with this plan if it mirrors Bush’s plan? Is this proof that no matter what Obama does, that they will never be satisfied?

I agree with this plan because it’s a plan to help protect the border, and not a plan like Arizona just passed where it makes it legal to racial profile.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100527/ap_on_re_us/us_national_guard_border_18

Obama puts forth border plan similar to Bush’s

PHOENIX – President Barack Obama’s plan to send as many as 1,200 National Guard troops back to the U.S.-Mexico border quelled demands that he must do more to battle illegal immigration and drug smuggling, but advocates for tougher enforcement say the troops need authority to make detentions.

The new plan looks similar to the National Guard initiative under former President George W. Bush, but on a much smaller scale: Troops will work on intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance support, and will eventually be replaced by more border patrol and customs agents. The plan at this point doesn’t call for the ability to round up suspected illegal immigrants and smugglers.

U.S. Ambassador to Mexico Carlos Pascual, speaking to journalists Wednesday in Mexico City, said the troops will serve as a bridge until the American government can get more agents on the border. He emphasized that the troops won’t be working on the front lines or interacting with people crossing the border.

"It’s much more back office functions of receiving reports that are coming in from other intelligence entities," he said. The troops will "review and analyze" intelligence, then "feed that to the people who are actually the presence on the border itself." In addition, he said the troops will observe the border from remote surveillance points, then communicate with Customs and Border Protection officers.




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With all these problems associated with the illegal alien problem, how can anyone advocate and say they are good for this nation?
Are there any problems not on this list that should be added?
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Americans Working to Stop Illegal Immigration
Get the Facts about Illegal Immigration
.
Problems With Illegal Immigration

While illegal alien and amnesty supporters state complaints from Americans about illegal immigration are some form of racism, there are many very real problems associated with illegal immigration.

We asked a focus groups of citizen activists who are engaged in the struggle to have America’s borders secured and existing immigration laws enforced to tell us the different reasons Americans are alarmed about illegal immigration.

Please review this list. More details will be added to each subject in the future. Please contact us if you have an addition for this list of problems caused by illegal immigration.

.

Anchor Babies: Birthright Citizenship Exploited
Anti-American Attitudes
Anti-Semitic Attitudes
Attacks on Border Patrol and Law Enforcement agents
Attacks on Free Speech in America
Animal Abuse Increases
Census Numbers: Negative Impact on Congressional Representation
Civil rights: Devalued by comparison to illegal actions
Child Endangerment
Child Molestation
Closed and Overcrowded Hospitals and Emergency Rooms
Cost of Translators
Consulates issuing Matricular Cards (ID Mexico won’t even accept)
Day Laborers loitering and creating public hazards
Depreciated Wages for Americans and Legal Immigrants
Deterioration of Common American Culture
Desecration of the American Flag: Foreign Flags used aggressively
Disrespect for American Laws
Document Fraud
Drunk driving injuries and deaths: Hit and Runs
Ethnic Cleansing and Race Riots
Farm animals with in city limits
Food Poisoning
Foreign Influence on US Politics
Gangs, Graffiti, Drugs, Cartels, Smugglers, and Violence
Gang Rape and unreported rapes
High Birth Rates and Overpopulation
Human Sex Slavery
Identity Theft
Increased Crime
Increased Taxes for Americans
Increased pressures on infrastructure (roads, traffic, water, sewer)
Infectious Diseases
Lost American Jobs
Lost American Sovereignty
Lost Self Governance of American citizens Vs. Globalism and Elitism
Male Chauvinism: Gender inequality
Not Speaking English, loss of common language, Press 1 for English
Overcrowded Schools and Negative Impact on American Education
Overcrowded single family homes
Overcrowded Jails and Prisons
Public Sanitation Loss: Trash and human waste in towns
Racist Groups and Race Based Politics
Remittances: Billions of dollars sent out of the US Economy
Rule of Law: Fundamental principles of America sacrificed.
Separatist Movements: Demands for autonomy
Smear Campaigns and Lies: Dirty Politics
Stolen American Taxpayer Resources: Tuition, Welfare, Licenses
Taking limited seats in colleges at taxpayer expense
Tax payer funds going to special interest groups (example) "LaRaza"
Terrorism Threats and Loss of national security
Trash and Negative Impact on Environment at border
Unfair to Legal Immigrants
Unfair Business Competition for law abiding companies
Unlicensed and Uninsured Motorists
Untaxed Wages
Voter Fraud

www.endillegalimmigration.com
nicks/grease same person, I do not use white supremacist sites, Uh I am American Indian. That is the most ridiculous statement.




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Once upon a time, America was almost a mirror of Ron Paul’s vision:

There were No Infringements on States Rights, No Gun Laws, No Department of Education, No HUD, No Paper Fiat Money, No Federal Reserve Banking System, No IRS, Little to No Illegal Immigration, No TSA, No Welfare State, No Unlawful Searches and Seizures, No Wars for Profit or Empire, No Standing Army, No State Police, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. Of course you know all this if you have ever read anything written by George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, or Ron Paul.

Our government was renowned throughout the world for how little it was doing – and with almost no money at all. We were debt free. We were a shining beacon on a mountaintop. And we were beginning to disturb some old European money and banking interests. What if this American experiment could spread throughout the rest of the world? Certainly the remaining monarchies of Europe had reason for concern.

You may think me Irrationally Exuberant, but I am not – I am well aware of the Blood, Sweat and Tears, that it will cost Us to restore Limited Constitutional Government to all the States of the Union – Yet through the Gloom I can see the Rays of ravishing Light and Glory. I can see that the End is more than worth all the Means. And that Posterity will triumph in that Day’s Transaction.

[with apologies to Abigail Adams and Blood Sweat and Tears – but Not Alan Greenspan]

The ink was still wet on the Constitution when the first acts of sedition were being undertaken; and those first few offenses were setting the stage for the major insults of the mid-1800s, yet, the whole world was marveling at the level of individual liberty that had been achieved in America. It is safe to say her Constitution was being observed a little more perfectly than it is today.

America was not perfect, but she was being governed more in line with informed consent than by fiat, sophistry, subterfuge or violence. She was already the freest place mankind had ever known with the very brief exception of the nation of Israel under some of the Judges – before they got the "brilliant" idea to demand a king so they could be like all the other nations.

Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, – That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. – The Declaration of Independence, 1776

Once again with feeling: "…Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes…" Add to that, that governments should not be changed through fraud, fear or mistake.

Regardless of how we got to this place where our State and Federal Governments are waging war against our Constitutions and attempting to destroy the last vestiges of free government and individual God-given rights, the way back will always be the same:

Fully Reinstate the Founding Principles – First in our own hearts and minds, and then in all of our governments.

Our Weapon of Choice: Education, Education, Education

On our way back we must not throw out the baby with the bath water – but at the same time we must be adamant about the fact that all governments must be brought all the way under the law. There must be no exceptions. Before we decide to throw off government we must do all we can to restore and preserve the fabric of lawful government that remains within the written laws of the United States made pursuant to the Constitution.

To accomplish this we will need more people in office who know and revere the Founding Principles, and more citizen sovereigns with the requisite knowledge and will to police their own government servants.

No constitution or set of governing principles will suffice if we wish to remain ignorant, wicked and lazy. "An ignorant people are easily betrayed, and a wicked people can never be ruled by the mild influence of their own laws." – Arthur J. Stansbury

Now I suppose that a baby doctor knows how to separate the baby from the bath water better than anyone. And certainly a flight surgeon will know just where to make all the right cuts. One of Ron Paul’s most important assets as president will be his comprehensive understanding of economics and how it relates to lawful money, Banking and Taxation. While it is obvious to most people that their government should not arbitrarily rob, kill or imprison them, it is the science of economics that gives us the forensic tools we need to measure the performance of our servants with precision.

"A science of economics must be developed before a science of politics can be logically formulated. Essentially, economics is the science of determining whether the interests of human beings are harmonious or antagonistic. This must be known before a science of politics can be formulated to determine the proper functions of government. Immediately following the development of a science of economics, and at the very beginning of the formulation of a science of politics, this all-important question must be answered: What is law? What ought it to be? What is its scope; its limits? Logically, at what point do the just powers of the legislator stop? I do not hesitate to answer: Law is the common force organized to act as an obstacle to injustice. In short, law is justice." ~ Frédéric Bastiat

Have you heard Dr. Ron in the debates [not really debates at all this time around]? When Dr. No starts talking economics the rest of them instinctively know they need to change the subject. They are over their heads before they open their mouths. Can you imagine what it might look like if each candidate had to face Dr. Paul on his/her own and argue to a true conclusion? Obviously they would rather play footsie with each other than go toe to toe with the Doctor.

As his presidency gets closer and closer there will be those in certain financial businesses who may have some trouble sleeping as they contemplate the impact of "lawfulness" on their "industries." Bankers should not be allowed to sleep. They have had a license to fleece for generations. It should worry them sick that their friends and relatives might fully comprehend the insidious nature of their craft. Ask any banker to explain the morality and ethics of being able to inflate the money supply surreptitiously for the benefit of limited or private interests – or as a covert method of taxation. They get all upset when you try to print your own money, don’t they? You go into a gas station to pay for a fill-up and some clerk swipes a special pen across the government’s counterfeit bill to make sure you are playing the game by their rules [just for fun offer to lend the clerk your own special pen].

There may be no way to avoid a crash landing for this corrupted economy. But if we have anyone ignorant of economics in the White House we run the risk of another New Deal from which we may never recover. FDR knew better – but I don’t know about his political heirs in both major parties. None of them seem to repudiate socialism in toto – and they all seem to lust after the fictional version of FDR.

Listen to the candidates when they talk about doing ANYTHING they promise. Then simply ask how they are going to pay for it. Once elected, they don’t get all that OPM just by asking for it. They take it by fraud and by force. They appropriate your money for their schemes. This may seem elementary. But millions of people still believe in them and appear to vote for them. And if promises don’t work they can always solicit the coveted Diebold Endorsement.

The period between the Declaration and the Constitution taught us many painful lessons regarding the necessity of sound money and transparent, honest banking. The Continental Dollar was a disaster. Not only did it precipitate hyperinflation, being based ultimately on nothing of substance, but it drove hard money away. Realize sound money only moves it does not vanish. It is smart enough to know where it will be properly respected. In the first few months of the Paul Administration the smart money [gold and silver] will once again be drawn toward the States of the Union just as surely as it has been chased away by the fraudulent, fiat Federal Reserve Note.

Paper Money IS War Money

The British printed counterfeit Continentals attempting to undermine the efforts of the American Patriots. This worked like a tax on the Revolution being levied by our enemies. In a sense the Revolution was an economic race as well as an armed conflict. Today, our own government servants in collusion with the Fed are making economic war against We The People.

Fiat money is a cancer that has been metastasizing to all of the major economies of the world. Electronic fiat money accelerates this disease and its effects. Compound the problem with fractional reserve banking and you have the perfect recipe for national and international financial ruin.

Dr. Ron Paul understands. He has been the watchman on the wall for several decades patiently repeating the warning: "GO BACK – YOU ARE GOING THE WRONG WAY!" The Founders and Framers of our Constitution had left clear principles that were being ignored, forgotten, or deliberately set aside. Dr. No has been watching carefully, making astute observations, speaking his mind and voting his conscience. He is uniquely qualified to be our next President because he the only candidate that takes his oath to heart – and the only one with a working grasp of economics.

Historian George Bancroft, writing in the late 1800s in his "Plea for the Constitution, Wounded in the House of its Guardians," was making the same case:

I have written because I am persuaded that a firm and right establishment of the true relations of money to labor cannot be secure in a republic except by cultivating the mind of its people, and diffusing a knowledge of the truth through all its members. The honest illusions of many men must be dispelled; and their minds, ransomed from error, will discern the truth. Paper money is a corruption of the blood. Or paper money is the dry rot, which silently and unseen consumes the beams and joists which support the house and its floors.

I am pleading the cause of industry, the cause of labor, the cause of the poor; and yet as I do not believe that the interests of the various classes of society necessarily clash with each other, I may hope that I am pleading for the welfare of society, for the rights and duties of all who in the many diversities of honorable occupation contribute to the completeness of a nation. What I have written is the fruit of many hours, employed in examining the laws of our period of colonial life, as well as in the study of our own constitution and of the corresponding history and affairs of many lands. I may utter these last words of admonition as assurances of that love of country, of liberty, and of truth that has been the rule of my life, and still glows in a heart which must so soon cease to beat [emphasis added].

In a battle against cancer it may be very important to have a biopsy. The doctor notices a lesion or a tumor and advises that certain tests be performed. Depending on the results of the tests, decisions will be made that could have grave consequences. I always say, if anyone ever asks which you would prefer, a biopsy, or an autopsy, go for the biopsy. America is at a crossroads. We can make believe everything will be all right [skip the biopsy] or we start learning how to heal the damage – before it’s too late.

I would love to think there were a million Ron Pauls. Perhaps the next best thing is for our country to be taught liberty by the example of Doctor Ron as he points us in the direction of the Founders and Framers of our Constitution. To be like Dr. Paul we must expose ourselves to the same resources and discipline that produced a Ron Paul.

Ron Paul’s model can be replicated: Govern lawfully and show everyone where you learned how to do it. Dr. Paul has been working this formula for more than 30 years in government service. Always be ready with a well-informed response – and prepared to cite authorities that will inspire and enhance the education of your students as well as your adversaries. The writings of the Founders and Framers of the Constitution are fabulous resources for anyone who wants to excel in any profession or calling. How much more are they a wellspring for those of us who yearn to breathe free!

You may have noticed that the other candidates refer to the Founders and Framers occasionally, but almost always in a symbolic way. For them, substance and context must be avoided at all cost.

This could be our last chance to revive American values and principles and avoid the post-mortem examination that has been the lot of empires. There have always been warning signs and those who were sounding the alarm. We were never meant to be an empire – only a constitutional republic – a government of laws and not of men.

Could it be Providence has determined our republic will be reborn and returned to us and our posterity by way of the gentle hands of a self-effacing country baby doctor? That would certainly confound the enemies of liberty – almost as much as they were confounded in 1781.

The Doctor will see you now. And after a comprehensive examination he will expect you to follow his recommendations if you want to regain your full health.

Get well soon America! Vote for Doctor Ron Paul!

January 30, 2008

Bill Huff [send him mail] is a Classical Libertarian and proprietor of LEXREX.com; a former public school music teacher turned home schooling advocate; a US Navy veteran, and host of WarIsARacket.com.




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